Question:
who do i talk to about my family coat of arms?
anonymous
2014-01-25 11:57:44 UTC
I have a family book and in it is a coat of arms report. i want to find out if its real but im not sure who i talk to about it or what profession they would be in for me to search for someone in my are.
Seven answers:
anonymous
2014-01-25 12:21:19 UTC
With the magic of the Internet, you no longer need to find someone in your area. The world's best authority on coats of arms is the College of Arms, in London. You can read all about them on their web site, below.



What follows is longer and better written than some answers, Politeness dictates I didn't write it all, just now, just for you.



My source is

http://college-of-arms.gov.uk

and, in particular,

http://college-of-arms.gov.uk/Faq.htm



Crests are the top part of a Coat of Arms. If you have a coat of arms, you typically put just the crest on your personal stationary and have someone carve it into the stone above the front doors of the family estate.



A "family crest" or "family Coat of arms" is "Family" in the sense of "My family estate", not in the sense of "Everyone named {Carpenter, Miller, Smith ...} can use it".



Individuals earn or buy a coat of arms. Anyone who is an English subject, of good character, and has done something notable can "apply", and I get the sense that, in these days, unless you've robbed a bank, the college of heralds will look favorably on your application, so long as you've included a "cheque" [That's how they spell "check" there]. They cost about (US) $7,000 the last time I looked.



Once someone has one, his eldest legitimate son inherits it. His other legitimate sons are strongly urged to pay the college of heralds to create a variation, or to stop using it. Women and illegitimate sons are too complicated to deal with here. In traditional English families, the oldest legitimate male heir inherits the bulk of the fortune and the family estate. If he is a nice guy, he’ll let his siblings have a small apartment in it, and loan them a housemaid or two as needed, but it is his, not theirs.



So, in most of the English romances or murder mysteries you read, someone is always popping down to the "family" estate for the grouse season, or receiving a note on engraved stationary with a "family" crest at the top, or driving away in a 4-horse coach with the “family” coat of arms on the door. Note again, estate, crest and coat of arms belong to one line in one family, not everyone in the world named "{Carpenter, Miller, Smith ...}". But, that is where the myth of a "family" coat of arms originates.



House of names -

http://www.houseofnames.com

will probably show you a Coat of Arms, with a crest, that was (probably) once issued to someone with the same surname as yours, but they make their profits on the gullible. They do their best to convince people that everyone named "{Carpenter, Miller, Smith ...}" has the same coat of arms, and they happen to have it, tastefully done in porcelain and mounted on a walnut plaque, for $39.99.
wendy c
2014-01-25 23:33:11 UTC
Ted gave an excellent answer..and all the experienced researchers here, will immediately explain.. families don't have coats of arms. Ever. So the book is already known to be misleading. We've seen them sold for years..and they take advantage of people who don't know this.

What we CAN HELP YOU WITH is learning about real genealogy. You don't need a professional to trace your ancestry. You need some basic rules and willingness to put in some time. We are pretty outspoken on those rules..since that is how you know that you have valid info.

For example..using your own birth certificate..you start with yourself, and PROVE YOUR PARENTS. Even when you "know" your parents..you get into the habit from day one, of using a document. And hey..we have had many people here who start into the documents, and find out that what they thought they "knew", was inaccurate. That's just the way it goes. Oral history can be mistaken.

From there, you keep working back.. one person/ generation at a time, and using valid records. The type of records will change as you go back.

Those books were widely sold for persons who didn't care to put in the work. The equivalent today is an online "family tree".. those are not a record. They are someone elses work, and might be good.. or might be just copied, and the original had mistakes. Don't rely on them..unless they have sources that you personally can validate.

http://www.cyndislist.com/beginners/

Here is a good site for you to start learning at...
?
2014-01-26 21:45:17 UTC
Abby,



First, "Coat of Arms" is a literal coat ( middle ages and forward ) upon which one's individual "arms" are displayed.



Second, "Arms" are given to individuals only.



Third, the symbol of one's "arms" may appear on a shield, coat, or other surface.



Abby, if you want to know if arms in your family book are legit, you must first find-out to whom the arms were given. Then go from there. If your ancestor lived in the UK, than, you might wish to contact the office of the "Lord Lyon King of Arms" ( Scotland), or the College of Arms ( England).
anonymous
2014-01-25 20:06:07 UTC
What ComicbookReader said. These companies that sell you a "family coat of arms" are all scams. If any of your ancestors had a coat of arms, it would be recorded in the heraldic registration office of whatever country they lived in.



Get an introductory book on heraldry to straighten out your confusion about this subject. And don't spend any money on fake "coats of arms."
Maxi
2014-01-25 21:05:03 UTC
No such thing as a 'family' coat of arms.......... coats of arms belong to an individual it was awarded to not their family and certainly not everyone who happens to use the same surname as them.......... as the individual helped design their own arms they don't need a 'report'.....and if you are in America then it is a republic and don't have 'Arms' which is why so many there steal other peoples as there is no Heraldry laws to stop them http://familytimeline.webs.com/coatofarmsmyths.htm
Comicbook Reader
2014-01-25 20:01:09 UTC
No such thing as a family coat of arms. CoAs are awarded to individuals, and are not inherited by every person in the family. The Coat would have been awarded to an individual person.
anonymous
2014-01-25 19:59:12 UTC
Ask your parents of they don't know, try your grandparents, they will most likely know.


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