Question:
I have a SERIOUS genealogy problem I need help with (more info below)?
Memories
2014-02-26 20:02:24 UTC
Need help with a genealogy problem (more info below)?
Visa Hooper married George Hillard and they had a son named John Hillard in 1847, I'm not sure if John was born in Indiana or Kentucky (but I know he ended up in Indiana), and Visa and George may have been born in Ky. However, I'd really like to know the parents of Visa Hooper, as well as George. I've been looking for years with no luck.
Three answers:
wendy c
2014-02-26 21:06:57 UTC
(yes..you can too do this)...

You could be looking for persons that don't exist. When hitting a brick wall, my first question is "what is your source". You say "listed in my book" that suggests that you have oral history with no document. So, back track to where you DO HAVE document.

Looks like you posted this a few years back. Ted tried to work it. No break. OK.. so I spot a John L Hillard with wife Martha in Indiana in 1900. You may need to match this couple to a child of theirs which you know.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MMBG-RVM

go to the original (its hard to read) but it shows this John born Ohio. Not Kentucky or Indiana. He and Martha have been married 33 yrs, ie about 1867.

If I have the right John L.. here he is in 1850 (he seems to be in the neighborhood of your other peeps.)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MHV2-29V

again, it has the original for you to see. I don't know the heads of house.. but looks like the parents here are Joseph and Delia.

Because Delia and the head of house are both born in the same state, he ranks as possible her father. I also see spelling as Hilliard (which is not proof of anything except to keep an open mind).

Before going any further.. I am gonna stop and have you VALIDATE details about John, ie his death date, name of his wife, name of their child that you are linking to.

Friendly tip for the night.. I suspect you are working from your "book" and never built the foundation of original documents. One of those would be birth/death records for John. What I am working with right now, is the locality (which I admit, comes from working with you on priors), and the 1900 census that conflicts with your statements. So, with name of their child.. you can review your sources, then see if I have the right couple in 1900.

Using the names you gave of George and Visa.. they show up NOWHERE in any documentation or census. I suspect they are not right. Educated guess.



edit

Delia Hillard/ Hilliard shows on 1880 familysearch as mother in law in someones' home. But I don't have ancestry.com so I can't pull the full entry. It could match a married daughter to connect her to earlier.



http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Hilliard&GSiman=1&GScid=1981312&GRid=24480325&

John L. with obit.. hope is right guy... then, run all Hilliards in that cemetery and Joseph comes up, d'd 1861.



edit

more.. John Hillard, b 1847 is not the father of Rebecca Hillard Long. Here is her findagrave...

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=100900551

as posted in another answer for this Rebecca... SHE is the daughter of John Hillard and Catherine, who were in Kentucky. I believe that was Catherine Clark.

whether THAT John's parents were George and Visa Hooper.. not clear on this.



http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=51599320

Delila MAIN Hilliard



edit

and.. we have a bingo

DICEY HOOPER md 1st Nathaniel Oldham then md 2nd George Hillard in 1856.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V653-PJV

son John OLDHAM shows in her home in 1850, age 2... meaning, he is not the son of George Hillard at all, but took that name.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5ZF-SSJ

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/LONG/2013-04/1366829017

and this message above is the person who pulled it together
Emily M
2014-02-27 20:25:14 UTC
FYI, there was a Vodisa Hooper in Bridgewater, MA. She was the wife of Apollos Hooper. She died in 1858. You might check to see if she had a descendant who was named after her. I could imagine this name being shortened to both Visa and Dicey.



Dicey is usually a nickname for Eurydice, but it can also be a nickname for Elizabeth and Edith and other names.
2014-02-26 22:57:26 UTC
Is this the one you wanted to look at Wendy?



1880 United States Federal Census about Deliah Hilliard

Name: Deliah Hilliard

Age: 65

Birth Year: abt 1815

Birthplace: Pennsylvania

Home in 1880: Salt Creek, Decatur, Indiana

Race: White

Gender: Female

Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law

Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania

Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania

Neighbors: View others on page

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Household Members:

Name Age

George Parker 24

Allice Parker 20

Eva Parker 3

Maud Parker 1

Deliah Hilliard 65

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Other stuff on Ancestry that may be of interest



1860 United States Federal Census about Delia Hilliard

Name: Delia Hilliard

Age in 1860: 44

Birth Year: abt 1816

Birthplace: Ohio

Home in 1860: Saltcreek, Decatur, Indiana

Gender: Female

Post Office: Rossburg and Smiths Crossing

Value of real estate: View image

Household Members:

Name Age

Joseph Hilliard 43

Delia Hilliard 44

William H Hilliard 13

John Hilliard 13

Rebecca A Hilliard 8

Lavina A Hilliard 1



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1870 United States Federal Census about Delila Hilliard

Name: Delila Hilliard

Age in 1870: 55

Birth Year: abt 1815

Birthplace: Virginia

Home in 1870: Salt Creek, Decatur, Indiana

Race: White

Gender: Female

Post Office: Newpoint

Value of real estate: View image

Household Members:

Name Age

Delila Hilliard 55

Rebeca A Hilliard 18

Levina A Hilliard 12

Henry Hilliard 24

Jane Hilliard 21

Chas E Hilliard 3/12


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