What is my family crest?? Please help i cant find the real one?

Question

I am looking for the real horstman family crest. It is also spelled Horstmann i cannot find it anywhere. i already looked on houseofnames.com but it wasnt it. and on 4crests.com. please help me find it.

Answer 1

Possibly you are looking for the American Horstmann coat of arms which is through Lippincott. If what you saw was three leopards on a red and black field, try looking at Lippincott at houseofnames.com keeping in mind that they are a scam shop.

Answer 2

It is possible there is more than one coat of arms associated with this name. Or maybe none. That is because they were awarded to individuals, not families.

The crest I got for my father years ago was the crest of a small town in Holland. His great grand parents came form Norway. The meaning of the name was correct, but how many dirt poor farmers in Norway (or any where else) would have a coat of arms?

If you do find one somewhere and get a picture of it, think of it as a decoration. It could very well have nothing to do with your ancestors.



http://www.fleurdelis.com/nofamilycrest.htm

Answer 3

There is no heraldic garden of eden where surnames and coats of arms are matched up. Most lineages have no arms, and lineages with the same surname often have different coat of arms.



You can't use only your surname to determine if a Horstmann ancestor in your specific lineage bore a coat of arms. You must also be certain that there were no intervening changes to the arms borne by intermediate ancestors (cadency or differencing).



If you want to find your inherited coat of arms (assuming an ancestor used on), you need to do some heavy-duty genealogy. Find your immigrant ancestor and contact a heraldry society in that country, or contact people with the Horstmann surname in the village or town where your ancestors lived.



The online heraldry hucksters sell arms by claiming everyone with the same surname bore the same arms. This is just historically inaccurate.



http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq

Answer 4

Yes, most of these are scams.



I suggest anyone interested in crests/coat of arms, etc., read the following excellent article: http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/11/the-myth-of-family-coats-of-arms.html



This will also help explain why you are having such trouble finding a crest for Horstmann.

Answer 5

The surname product business is a scam. . In Germany unlike in Britain, coats of arms were assumed by individuals. In Britain they are specifically granted by the the heraldry authority.



However, there really isn't any such thing as a family crest. A crest is part of a coat of arms and as Joyce stated they belong to individuals, not families.



Frequently more than one man with the same surname, not all necessarily related, were each granted or assumed their own coat of arms, all different. No one peddler who sells them on the internet, at shopping malls, in airports, in magazines or solicit by mail will have all of them. They don't need to in order to sell. The only time they will have more than one that I know of is House of Names will have more than one coat of arm associated with the same surname if more than one man with the same surname from different national origins were granted or assumed one. Then they will have one of each and there might have been 50 others. At the same time most men with that same surname are not entitled to a coat of arms at all as they have no direct ancestor that were ever granted or assumed a coat of arms.



Not too long ago there was an ad running on TV for a company selling framed surname histories which is somewhat shady as not everyone with the same surname will have the same history. When surnames were taken or assigned in Europe during the last millennium it wasn't impossible for legitimate sons of the same man to wind up with a different surname and still each could have shared his surname with others with no known relationship. The root person of your surname will not necessarily be the root person of someone else with your surname. The man in the ad stated "a" coat of arms will be on it, not "your" coat of arms. You see on TV the FCC can slap a company with a big fine for fraudulent advertising. The FCC has no control over the internet or some merchant in your local shopping mall.



Edit: House of Names has the following in small print



"We encourage you to study the Horstmann family history to find out if you descend from someone who bore a particular family crest . . . . . . . . No families, not even royal houses, can make sound claim to the right to bear arms unless a proven connection is established through attested genealogy records."

The coat of arms they are displaying was assumed by one man named Horstmann. It is up to you to find out if you are a direct male line descendant of that one man. If not it has nothing to do with you at all.

Answer 6

Houseofnames.com does have it.



I always go there for research and It's always accurate.

But I guess that depends on the information you're looking for.



http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/horstmann-family-crest.htm



It says dutch, german for the coat of arms.

Answer 7

a guy with your last name has these

http://www.myspace.com/chrishorstman78